I'm Done

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by PMFB-RN PMFB-RN, RN Member Nurse

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response. Has 16 years experience.

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Hoosier_RN, MSN

Specializes in dialysis. Has 29 years experience. 3,362 Posts

10 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Speak for yourself.  

There's no amount of money that would bring me out of early retirement to work in a pandemic like this one.  

I was getting ready to say this in regards to all my friends and relatives (nurses) who are retired and say the same thing. Not enough money to get them to even remotely think about leaving the safety and sanity of retirement, and they all state that the amount doesn't exist

PMFB-RN, RN

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response. Has 16 years experience. 5,339 Posts

11 hours ago, Queen Tiye said:

I wonder how many unvaccinated, critically ill Covid patients aren’t getting the care they deserve.  It never occurred to me that this could be an issue until reading this thread.

None that I'm aware of. In fact it's unvaxxed who are killing the vaccinated with their choice to clog up the ICUs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-us-hospital-ICU-bed-shortage-veteran-dies-treatable-illness/

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/12/alabama-ray-demonia-hospitals-ICU/

PMFB-RN, RN

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response. Has 16 years experience. 5,339 Posts

19 hours ago, LisaNICUrn said:
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Everyone has a right to choose what they put in their body. Your vaccine?

Of course they do! Naturally those who choose not to be vaccinated will need to be kept out of public spaces. 

 

   

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The fact that I'm seeing registered nurses on this site blatantly say they see people and hear they are unvaccinated and hope they die!!

I haven't seen that.

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What?!? Are you kidding me? Do you feel that way about overweight people who still eat that fast food and ice cream and end up in DKA and lose a leg?

Overweight people are the moral equivalent of seat belt refusers. Their choice is unwise, but only affects them. 

    The unvaxxed are the moral equivalent of drunk drivers. Their choice puts the rest of us at increased risk.

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Do you say that to the older generation who ends up in the ICU because they didn't get their Flu shot for the season and has the flu?

 

Do I say what to them? 

  

 

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I have done my own research,

 

Great! At what lab did you preform your research? In which peer reviewed publication may we read the results of your research?

 

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I am not anti-vax. But I have questions on this vaccine, It doesn't stop anyone from getting covid, and it doesn't stop anyone from spreading it, so why would I chance taking a brand new vaccine. Not only new vaccine, but mRNA technology is new. Sure, it's been around a while, yep! But it has never been used because all their test subjects (I.e rats) die. Every single one. So forgive me for not trusting something that hasn't been properly researched? There were no human trials before it was given to millions of people at the same time.  What will happen to people in 2 years? In 5 years? How often will we need boosters? Every 6 months (or 2 months for the J&J vaccine) for how long? 

   I'm dismayed when supposed registered nurses spread disinformation and false propaganda like you just did.

 

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   This thread has disgusted me, and I pray my family members are never taken care of from some of you. You all need to learn compassion and acceptance again, realize even nurses are entitled to their own medical decisions. The hospital wouldn't be in such dire circumstances if they weren't firing nurses for not getting the vaccine. Why don't you blame them for firing your help?

Only one nurse out of hundreds at my hospital is getting fired as a result of refusing to get vaccinated. He is an idiot who is so incompetent he had to be removed from direct patient care for "retraining". They have him doing scheduling and manning th3e front door asking people about COVID symptoms and handing out masks. 

 

 

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Hoosier_RN, MSN

Specializes in dialysis. Has 29 years experience. 3,362 Posts

12 hours ago, bluescrubs said:

Trust me, if the money is good enough people will come out of retirement and the shadows for it. If a hospital is paying 8k for 3 or 4 days, best believe I'm there no matter how s****y it is because I know it'll only last 13 weeks...

Nope, all of the retired nurses that I know say nope, not coming out of retirement. Not enough money to make it happen. Some actually view better treatment as an incentive to stay in a job, it's not always about money

SmilingBluEyes

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14 hours ago, Queen Tiye said:

I wonder how many unvaccinated, critically ill Covid patients aren’t getting the care they deserve.  It never occurred to me that this could be an issue until reading this thread.

You ought to wonder this:

 

Why did a veteran die of gall bladder issues waiting for a bed, no beds available for 5 states around? His mother would sure as hell like to know. The ICUs were full of  COVID patients. And 90 percent or more of hospitalized patients have NO vaccine.

This is an outrage.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-us-hospital-ICU-bed-shortage-veteran-dies-treatable-illness/

14 hours ago, bluescrubs said:

.Trust me, if the money is good enough people will come out of retirement and the shadows for it If a hospital is paying 8k for 3 or 4 days, best believe I'm there no matter how s****y it is because I know it'll only last 13 weeks... Or the hospital can treat their nurses like they are the backbone of the hospital since we are, give us competitive wages, uninterrupted lunch breaks, charge nurses and CNAs staffed on the floor, retention bonuses for the loyal ones that stayed, hazard pay for the covid floors, etc. Of course this is the ideal hospital that doesn't exist. I know everyday at work isn't going to be perfect but having a charge nurse and enough CNA's to help out truly makes a huge difference. Hiring travel nurses is just putting a band aid on a the situation. We need to fix the source of the problem. Once I saw how good travel was, there is no incentive for me to be staff. Even when the travel money isn't as lucrative as it is now and I settle down I want to have 2 PRN jobs in corrections or psych or a mix of both. That way I make my own schedule, I won't have to deal with the drama of being staff and just clock in, do my job and leave. Bedside really isn't where its at. It's a good foundation for nursing skills and knowledge but not something long-term unless management makes some radical changes.

Trust you? Not ONE nurse I know who is retired would DREAM of coming back.

You are wrong.

Tweety, BSN, RN

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac. Has 30 years experience. 30,852 Posts

I do know a nurse that works in Michigan, I believe at a VA.  I met her on vacation a few months ago when we were on the same tour and we bonded. She actually postponed what was to be an early retirement because the money was too good.  Apparently she was offered a huge financial incentive to not retire, plus they paid bonuses like a lot of places to pick up extra shifts.

I would agree that for the most part when nurses retire, it's for good and unless they really need the money they aren't going to be enticed to come back.  

I have read articles about covid bringing some nurses out of retirement out of a sense of duty, rather than the money.  Also retired nurses are coming out of retirement to help administer vaccines.

 

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summertx

Has 7 years experience. 144 Posts

4 hours ago, Tweety said:

 Also retired nurses are coming out of retirement to help administer vaccines.

 

I don't think that's where the nursing shortage is. The shortages are at the hospitals, not administering vaccines. Nurses are leaving the hospitals due to being overworked for the vaccine positions. It doesn't make sense to 'come out of retirement'  to help administer vaccines due to the need being greater in the hospital. Pharmacists and MA's can do that.

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summertx

Has 7 years experience. 144 Posts

On 10/25/2021 at 8:13 AM, Tweety said:

I've read this thread and I haven't seen where the unvaccinated are not getting the care they need and deserve, just that they were stressing out the hospital system and overwhelming the nursing staff to the point of burnout, depression and suicide.  

Yes, there is anger against the unvaccinated, but that doesn't mean they aren't getting our best...the same as other patients that cause their own misery through lifestyle.  We're here for them all.

The OP is not advocating that the unvaccinated are getting the care they deserve. He/she is belittling them. Clearly the wrong profession for the OP.

Hoosier_RN, MSN

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36 minutes ago, summertx said:

I don't think that's where the nursing shortage is. The shortages are at the hospitals, not administering vaccines. Nurses are leaving the hospitals due to being overworked for the vaccine positions. It doesn't make sense to 'come out of retirement'  to help administer vaccines due to the need being greater in the hospital. Pharmacists and MA's can do that.

The 1 retired that did come out of retirement is working at the local health dept (drumroll) administering vaccines-flu, rona, pneumo/prevnar. They don't feel like being beat to death in the hospital at their age, and they make a few extra bucks that doesn't mess with their SS payments. 

summertx

Has 7 years experience. 144 Posts

26 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

The 1 retired that did come out of retirement is working at the local health dept (drumroll) administering vaccines-flu, rona, pneumo/prevnar. They don't feel like being beat to death in the hospital at their age, and they make a few extra bucks that doesn't mess with their SS payments. 

some healthcare facilities have no shame in overworking staff, even nurses who are near retirement. I knew a nurse who was 70 and they still put her on the schedule for 4 12's after repeatedly telling them she could only do 2. They bit the hand that fed them and she left. 

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toomuchbaloney

Has 44 years experience. 8,356 Posts

1 hour ago, summertx said:

The OP is not advocating that the unvaccinated are getting the care they deserve. He/she is belittling them. Clearly the wrong profession for the OP.

In your opinion...

summertx

Has 7 years experience. 144 Posts

27 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

In your opinion...

It's not only my opinion but also the belief that maybe if it's your job, opinions should be kept to yourself. I have seen MANY covid deaths - but I have no opinion on whether they were vaccinated or not. Most of the deaths were the first year before the vaccinations they were very quick. Yeah now I might think 'why was the person not vaccinated' or maybe the POA or fam was against it, but I don't say it to anyone. 

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