If you could go back in time, what would you tell the first American COVID patient before he boarded the plane from Wuhan?

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subee, MSN, CRNA

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4 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Are you discounting facts and evidence because of bias? Seems so...

She or he hasn't noted any facts.  What is "mucked up" ? What specifically is the complaint here except for the general Airing of Greivances?  Save it for Festivus!

Tenebrae, BSN, RN

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6 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

Even your own source does not say he talked about injecting bleach, he commented (based on other study/MD), that injecting disinfectant to a particular area might help. Did he use the wrong word,   Yes, and I already stated it needed clarifying, and he did.

Directly quoted from the article eg is quoted direct by Donald Trump"

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"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

I think Donald Trump is one the most ginormous idiots present in the 21st century. I have nothing to gain by misquoting something that can be checked so easily

I find it appalling as an educated health professional you can support a man who supports injecting or any other method of getting bleach into the lungs.

Daisy4RN

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11 hours ago, subee said:

She or he hasn't noted any facts.  What is "mucked up" ? What specifically is the complaint here except for the general Airing of Greivances?  Save it for Festivus!

The facts are quite obvious to anyone paying attention, I don’t need to spell them out to you nor will I. 
 

 

10 hours ago, Tenebrae said:

Directly quoted from the article eg is quoted direct by Donald Trump"

I think Donald Trump is one the most ginormous idiots present in the 21st century. I have nothing to gain by misquoting something that can be checked so easily

I find it appalling as an educated health professional you can support a man who supports injecting or any other method of getting bleach into the lungs.

I have already explained the point. But as usual when all else fails attack someone’s credentials for having a different political opinion, typical.

subee, MSN, CRNA

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18 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

Even your own source does not say he talked about injecting bleach, he commented (based on other study/MD), that injecting disinfectant to a particular area might help. Did he use the wrong word,   Yes, and I already stated it needed clarifying, and he did.

But again, not sure why some of you remain focused on Trump when Biden is mucking up just about everything he touches, he is a hot mess and you continue to worry about Trump, amazing. 

 

As they say, follow the money and check the authors bias. Facts are most definitely not a problem for me!

"Mucking up",  "hot mess" are completely meaningless terms when you are attempting to crucify someone.  If you can't articulate what you mean, then you haven't thought it out yet.  Yet, we still have to worry about Trump because he left a Republican party which hasn't presented an agenda based on the needs of the constituents but a simple list of "solutions" to bring us back to the darker times.  Really?  Do you believe that we need laws to prevent critical race theory from being taught to 5 to 8 year olds?  This is all the Florida legislature has to spend it's money on?  I have yet to even see any evidence that CRT is even being taught to secondary students or undergraduate students in college.  It's just someone's theory that Tucker Carlson has latched onto to keep his ratings up.  Your ramblings are just that.  The politifact link you posted didn't even buttress up your point that  Biden was a liar so I don't know why you even linked that.  It made you look like you didn't even read it yourself before you linked it.  If you come here to rant then be prepared for people to use reasonable arguments.

toomuchbaloney

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1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

The facts are quite obvious to anyone paying attention, I don’t need to spell them out to you nor will I. 
 

 

I have already explained the point. But as usual when all else fails attack someone’s credentials for having a different political opinion, typical.

You haven't offered any facts while refusing to acknowledge the facts presented in this thread which contradict your feelings about this pandemic and how it was mishandled by the previous administration.  Thats what's sadly typical in this thread.  

JVBT, ASN

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On 2/11/2022 at 3:04 PM, Daisy4RN said:

I think the bigger question is what we should have told our politicians, news media, social media etc at the start of the pandemic and that would be to NOT politicize this pandemic. IMO, the politicization has caused many more problems than was necessary. 

I agree. However, how possible was / is this, realistically? What happened, happened on a mass scale, and there are opportunists everywhere, ready to take advantage and have a huge impact. So, sometimes the media is just covering those who are using a mass event to gain money and/or followers, and thereby inadvertently amplifying their message. It's a tough one, that's for sure.